From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 15:05:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26368 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26357 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:09 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA06470 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 00043A38; Thu, 22 Apr 99 15:01:31 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:01:43 +0100 Message-ID: <00043A38.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re[2]: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Author: "Matthew Lowe" <Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com> >It wasn't the idea of many a person running around in their pants that I >liked, more the recognition for ultimate. Apart from the name-linking (and hence the "Ultimate players wear Jockeys" endorsement) in the advertising that is a part this sponsorship deal, what else do Jockey get out of it? - Photos of Ultimate players in their underwear? So why Ultimate, rather than mainstream sports with Celebrities who are household names? - Guarantees that no other underwear manufacturers will have sales stalls at the sponsored tournaments? Hmmm, ever seen an underwear store at a tournament? Do Jockey actually seem to be trying to help promote Ultimate, without too many benefits for themselves? Apologies for the cynicism, but from past experience sponsorship deals generally require something that cuts both ways - Ultimate players generally want the money (or whatever the money can buy: publicity, transport, kit...), but the sponsoring company wants something too - generally a decent advert, which is kind of difficult from an "alternative" sport with little or no media presence. Wayne Retter