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From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
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Subject: RE: Re[2]: Regional Rosters
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:12:39 -0000
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1. If they enter regionals under their own name, then for the purpose
of this tournament, yes, they are considered a club.
2. If you do not play at regionals then yes you can play for any indoor
team at Nationals as you have not been 'cup-tied'
3. Yes you can supplement your first team with 'new' players who have
not played for either team in regionals, thereby leaving your 2nd team
intact, but once you move a player from your second team to the first team
one of these two teams (presumably the 2nd team) cannot play at Nationals
irrelevant of qualification.
4. You don't stop two teams from the same club amalgamating into one
super team since they could do this anyway.
5. I make the assumption (possibly rashly) that as in all areas of
ultimate that Spirit will prevail.
Is that enough explanation for everyone or do people want pictures as well?
Chris
DoC
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk
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Sent: 3 March 1999 17:58
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; HUGHES; Chris
Subject: Re[2]: Regional Rosters
Maybe I'm looking at this too closely?
Author: "HUGHES; Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
Date: 03/03/99 16:30
>I accept your point, and thinking along those lines am prepared to
adapt the
>rules;
>1. As before you cannot change CLUBS between regionals and
Nationals.
> If you play for a club at regionals, you must play for the same
club at
>Nationals. Should you not play at regionals you may pick-up with
any club
>at Nationals. Should you play at regionals you do not have to play
at
>Nationals.
By this rule, 'non-regular' teams such as (for example) Mr Men, Look
at Me!
and Wyld Stallions must, by definition,
a) be a CLUB
b) be a 'second team' of another clubs
c) none of the above, in which case they could qualify, elect not to
play at
Nationals, and pick up for other CLUBS (Reminds me slightly of a
similar
Outdoor scenario...! and of an Indoor query involving the Manchester
teams
last year...)
>2. If a club enters more than one team to regionals then
players may
>move between teams between regionals and nationals (note: players
may not
>switch between games at either tournament - you may only play for
one team
>at each tournament). HOWEVER, should a player move from Team B to
Team A,
>then Team B must forfeit their slot at Nationals if they qualify.
>This allows you to play experienced players on a weaker team for
regionals,
>and then move them up to your first team for Nationals.
>If your second team qualifies as well then the experienced player
must
>either stay with the second team, or the second team forfeits their
place
>at Nationals. This also allows you to move players up due to
injuries.
It is assumed OBVIOUS that the second team CAN NOT attend 'cos it's
supplementing the first team? They are not allowed to replace these
'promoted' players with others from their player base...?
These 'new' players could, however, go straight into the first team
as the
'injury subs'.
So how do you stop any club from (for example) entering two "good"
Iron Man
teams to Regionals (maybe different Regions!), qualifying for
Nationals - maybe
not top of the region, but in a position to win - and then
amalgamating those
two teams into a "superteam" that will win the Nationals event
(rather than both
finishing top 6)?
Off the top of my head I can think of three clubs that _could_ do
that...
Wayne Retter
Fluid Druids