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From: "David Grayson" <david@mcg.gla.ac.uk>
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Just to agree with Mark. Last year at least three teams at nationals
were seriously affected by not being able to promote B team players
to cover injuries etc. I believe this devalued the quality of
nationals as clubs playerd ironman instead of having a B team player
as a sub. In most sport you can refuel at a pit stop.
Should 2 teams from one club qualify then they can be treated as
separate and not permit switching between teams.
The other (slightly more radical) alternative would be to consider
Nationals as a competition between the top 24 clubs in GB. Therefore
don't allow second teams to qualify. Seems to me this takes away a
lot of the incentive for certain second teams to play hard at
regionals however so I wouldn't be in favour of it.
Having said all that - rules were set a few weeks ago and regionals
teams will have been picked on the basis of those rules so perhaps we
should be discussing a change for next year?
Dave.
Mud Culture.
> From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Regional Rosters
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:02:39 -0000
> This was originally going just to you Chris, but as your server keeps
> returning my messages it looks like fate wanted this as an open
> discussion.....
>
> We all understand - I think - why teams should be required to roster their
> regional entries. I won't bore you by repeating the arguments. I agree
> with them. But there are situations where the rules - designed to promote
> and protect a level playing field for all teams - disadvantage some teams -
> particularly students. Strange Blue (I hope you don't mind me speaking
> about this Dora) have worked really hard to put a second team together for
> the regionals. It is a specifically student-related issue that this second
> team (or third, or fourth) will consist of freshers, beginners etc who do
> not get as many opportunities to compete. In fielding multiple teams clubs
> may be stretching their human resources to the point where, if a first team
> player is injured, there is no one left to replace them. So what should
> they do? Only take one team, to guarantee replacements if needed, or take
> the second team, knowing that if the firsts qualify but suffer injury they
> may have to give up their space at the nationals?
>
> There is no easy solution. As you have pointed out, Chris, by allowing
> players to switch teams you run the risk of large clubs attempting to flood
> the Nationals. But I do think we should think about this seriously. One
> suggestion - by no means fool-proof - is to allow teams a designated number
> of nominated reserves - one or two players who must be with that club, who
> are allowed to play in the regionals with one team but then take up their
> reserve place in the Nationals if required. This will probably only help
> student clubs anyway - there are very few non student clubs who put in
> multiple teams - and by limiting the number of reserves you largely prevent
> a team from amassing hundreds of pick-ups for the finals.
>
> I'm always far too enthusiastic, and I'm sure a hundred people will tell me
> why this can't work. But discuss it quickly and sensibly and see if we
> can't reach some sort of solution for teams like Strange Blue - it is in our
> sport's best interests to help, rather than discourage, teams after all.
>
> Thanks for reading this far.....
>
>
>
> Mark
> Whiplash
>