From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 3 14:06:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04369 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:04:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04360 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:04:37 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17896 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:04:36 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:02:49 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <FYKTP9PC>; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:02:47 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A574D@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Regional Rosters Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:02:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This was originally going just to you Chris, but as your server keeps returning my messages it looks like fate wanted this as an open discussion..... We all understand - I think - why teams should be required to roster their regional entries. I won't bore you by repeating the arguments. I agree with them. But there are situations where the rules - designed to promote and protect a level playing field for all teams - disadvantage some teams - particularly students. Strange Blue (I hope you don't mind me speaking about this Dora) have worked really hard to put a second team together for the regionals. It is a specifically student-related issue that this second team (or third, or fourth) will consist of freshers, beginners etc who do not get as many opportunities to compete. In fielding multiple teams clubs may be stretching their human resources to the point where, if a first team player is injured, there is no one left to replace them. So what should they do? Only take one team, to guarantee replacements if needed, or take the second team, knowing that if the firsts qualify but suffer injury they may have to give up their space at the nationals? There is no easy solution. As you have pointed out, Chris, by allowing players to switch teams you run the risk of large clubs attempting to flood the Nationals. But I do think we should think about this seriously. One suggestion - by no means fool-proof - is to allow teams a designated number of nominated reserves - one or two players who must be with that club, who are allowed to play in the regionals with one team but then take up their reserve place in the Nationals if required. This will probably only help student clubs anyway - there are very few non student clubs who put in multiple teams - and by limiting the number of reserves you largely prevent a team from amassing hundreds of pick-ups for the finals. I'm always far too enthusiastic, and I'm sure a hundred people will tell me why this can't work. But discuss it quickly and sensibly and see if we can't reach some sort of solution for teams like Strange Blue - it is in our sport's best interests to help, rather than discourage, teams after all. Thanks for reading this far..... Mark Whiplash