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From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
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Subject: Laying out indoors
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[BS]
Just a quick note about indoor ultimate.
Although I agree that Indoors is essential to the teaching of ultimate and
it is alot of fun (If you like that sort of thing). If you take the lay out
out of Ultimate, is it still ultimate?? To me, Indoors is fun, but I learned
along time ago not to lay out on a concreate floor or near a wall.
So There is my point - I don't think the rules of ultimate translate as well
as they could do to the indoor game. To make indoors safer the layout needs
to be looked down apon, mabe even put somone in the sin bin for doing a big
one. Everybody with a bit of experience can do a little slide on their arse,
but it takes time to learn how to do it safely.
but if Indoors it taught without the layout, when people go from being
indoors to outdoors they will get confused about what sort of disc they can
make a bid on or not!
Therefore Indoors should be more widly seen as a different sport, that needs
different skills and its own governing body!

[CH]
Don't be so stupid. Ultimate like all sports give people the choice at which
intensity you want to play at. Some people have represented GB on a number
of occasions outdoors without ever laying out - step forward Sonic. Other
people like me are so fat and slow that the only way I'll ever get to a disc
is to dive for it 'cos I can never run there quick enough.

Laying out - both indoors and outdoors is each individuals choice; as long
as the dive does not endanger anyone else then you can dive headfirst into a
wall for all I care. If you go to some tournaments you'll find that no
matter how far you dive as long as you start on the pitch you still won't
reach the closest wall.

You play your game and I'll play mine, and if you decide that indoors is too
unsafe for your liking then don't play, but don't try and be a nanny for
everyone else.

I'll agree with you on one front - indoors is a totally different style of
play than outdoors, but there is no need for a separate governing body;
especially one that won't let you layout. What next - no running in case you
trip up and graze your knee.

Chris