From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 16 09:59:50 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA00597 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:57:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.rmplc.co.uk (dns2.rmplc.co.uk [194.154.16.99]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00565 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:57:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by mx1.rmplc.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA02907 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:57:06 GMT Received: from acotgreave.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA15767 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:57:05 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199810160857.JAA15767@mail.rmplc.net> From: "Andy Cotgreave" <acotgreave@rmplc.net> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Discussion on World Ultimate Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:56:39 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello : : Cad, : at last, someone in this crazy world who seems to know about how too : improve the GB team. So, jon, are you trying to say that all the blood, sweat and tears that have been put in by the GB coaches over the last few years has all been misguided and a waste of time? and that they didn't have a clue what they were doing? I have to say that, although Cads ideas are all put forward with the best intentions, they are a little naive. I have seen the efforts made to improve the GB team, and everyone involved devotes soooo much to it, and they deserve only congratulations for the amount of work they do put in to making the GB team as good as it can be. However, the ideas proposed are complete pie-in-the-sky idealistic ideas which are nigh on impossible to implement. Andy Cotgreave Chevron Action Flash 95-98 Mythago 94-95, Student Champions Sneeekys 92-96, won spirit a few times practised with Strange Blue once or twice M.Sc, B.A (hons) geography acotgreave@rmplc.net "read netiquette rules about long sig. files" : Jon Good : aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian' and 'More than just a Hint' : aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of 'Blue Arse Flies' : D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. : Captain S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers : The loneliest man since time began - all air-fare donations gratefully : received : World of Crack! : : "She asked for I drink, I baught farmhouse scrumpy : And then went back to her's for some rumpy-pumpy." : : On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Oakley, Caedman wrote: : : > IMNSHO Practice and constantly playing together is the only way that a : > national team can do well. This is why the US sends their best club team to : > Worlds. : > : > So, not knowing quite how it works, how does this grab people: : > : > 1 - Identify the players that have the dedication to - and would like to : > -play for GB. : > 2 - Identify which of these players can afford to play for GB (AFAIK there : > are no subsidies at the moment please correct me if I am wrong.) : > 3 - Select 2 teams an A team and a B team, forming 1 squad. : > 4 - Train as many weekends as possible, (midweek can be difficult) : > 5 - During tournament season take the GB team as a club to European : > tournaments (inc. British Open). Of the top of my head I think that this : > could be about 1 every 6 weeks from end of Feb to end of Oct. This club : > team would be formed as a subset of A+B, as there will indoubtedly be other : > commitments, injury etc. : > 6 - Play friendlies against other top teams in the country (e.g let us : > assume that UTI and Catch form the basis of the GB team: Play against : > Druids, Chevvy etc.) on a regular basis. : > : > Point 6 has the added advantage that the teams that they play against will : > also benefit, and I am certain that there are players in the lower seeded : > teams that would like to join in on this, forming a GB Sparring team. : > : > There is probably already a requirement that n training sessions must be : > attended, so that is already covered. : > : > Most people that are willing to play for their country know the sacrifice : > that they have to make to be at that level, and are quite willing to give up : > 9 out of 10 weekends, and if it is organised right, the other teams I am : > sure will welcome the chance to play hard games (can even use them for Tour : > practice). : > : > Cads - hoping that this doesn't seem too much like sticking an oar in where : > it ain't wanted. : > :