From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 13 12:50:15 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA04046 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:33:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from otto.crispgroup.co.uk (crispgroup.demon.co.uk [158.152.87.155]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04002 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:33:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.1.1.241] by otto.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.aia2) with ESMTP id ya026934 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:31:56 +0100 Received: from [129.1.11.56] by homer.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0012/1.aia2) with ESMTP id ja031547 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:30:29 +0100 Received: by raviben810.crispgroup.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BDF69E.5461C080@raviben810.crispgroup.co.uk>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:40:51 +0100 Message-ID: <01BDF69E.5461C080@raviben810.crispgroup.co.uk> From: Ben Ravilious <Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk> To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: GB teams Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:40:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Info: Crisp Computing Mail Server Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA04013 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [BR] Glad you started this topic Colin. Its crying out for a really huge discussion. As was stated at the recent EGM, both the womens and open coach positions are up for grabs. As you will have read, the women will be having a discussion about this next weekend at the nationals. I have heard rumours/ideas floating around about changing the whole way we pick our national teams. Could I ask that now would be a good time for people to air these suggestions. In both Womens & Open divisions there seems to be a certain amount of secrecy regarding peoples opinions on the National Teams (perhaps because people don't want to jeopardise they're chances of selection?!). Could I suggest that open and frank discussion is miles better than plotting some sort of Coup D'etat! I think our current coaches ego's are big enough to take criticism - if that is what you have for them. A very valid point which Colin made is that the role of the coachs might need to change if the selection process were to alter. Point taken Colin! So... let the people speak.... Ben BUF Secretary GB Open Team No-hoper Cue:- 'Huge discussion on how GB teams can do better at World Championships' Its all about priorities and we seem to have not defined them clear enough, do we want to see GB finishing in the 'second' division of World Ultimate or do we wish to see us really acheiving what we can. We do have some really talented players in this country, but it seems these never get it together to represent GB. In my opinion it seems that most players are far more committed to playing for their club than their country. There is no problem with this as long as it is acknowledged. The Shotgun team of 1997 at WUCC in Vancouver came 18th and really made an impression on the World scene. GB teams consistantly fail to achieve what a GB team could. This needs to be adressed. We all want the best players to represent the country but this as has been shown is not always possible. In light of this the current system of choosing the GB team needs changing. We have to find out what is the BUF's prioity, before any submission for GB manager/coach etc can be made. Should we send the Tour Winners/Nationals Winners/Best performing team at the WUCC of the previous year/Should it be completely open with fulls trials/Should we combine the top 2/3/4/5 etc teams? Practice is the key, if a GB team can practice frequently and regularly like a club side we may be able to achieve more. Please lets discuss this, as Rafi said this is very important and you would expect more on BD. Colin. UTI. ----- End of forwarded message from owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk ----- ____ ____ _ _ ____ .----------------------------------------. _\__ \ _\__ \ / \ / \\__/ | Ranulf Doswell | / \_/ /_ / \_/ \ / / / /___ | Department of Computer Science | \ __ \\ __ \\ \ _\ \\_/ |University of Warwick, COVENTRY, CV4 7AL| \ \ \ \\ \ \ \\ \__/ \\ \ | Phone: 01203 523296 Fax: 01203 525714 | \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \______/ \_/ `----------------------------------------'