From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 9 12:57:51 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA03248 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:42:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03212 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:42:12 +0100 (BST) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <T7XA1GD0>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:37:36 -0700 Message-ID: <178EA92097A9D111AD0900A0C99B4EFC4F21E7@UK-EXCHANGE1> From: "Oakley, Caedman" <Caedman_Oakley@nai.com> To: "britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Spirited Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:14:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thankyou Scott... > >I don't know if Red count as a 'top' team, but as a player in a team that >regularly plays again 'top' and 'bottom' teams, I have always found the >lower teams to be less spirited. Examples are: >- Ignoring calls of, out-of-bounds, travel, etc >- Getting upset/angry when called back for the call they just ignored >- Getting upset/angry that anyone should call a foul on them at all >- not calling fouls Most of the time if a call is made, it is because (And I will quote Adam "Fatboy" Batchelor here) the player making the call believes their point of view, as does the player disputing the call. It was good to see that in our game against Druids at Nationals, despite some odd calls (to us on the sideline) calls were sorted out between the players involved. According to 401, we should adhere to the rules - if you HONESTLY think you are being fouled, make the call. The opponent will probably dispute it, because they believe they weren't fouling, but the rules are there to deal with it. >I would admit that the games against the 'top' teams have become more >physical, with much more bumping, but this may be because there's more of me >than there used to be to bump! Actually Ian, there is a lot of bump and run stuff happening in the top 8, which I personally feel is a detriment to the game... I saw a game at Nationals in which a player bumped and ran, was called for it, and came back with no dispute... Can we PLEASE in the UK at least stop playing that style? - I know I am fat and slow, but that should mean that the person I am marking should be able to get away without bumping me - and so that people do not think I am singling teams out, I have had bump and run games against all the top 8 teams. >Scott >Red Mediocrity Sucks -----Original Message----- From: Ian Scotland [mailto:Scott@webleicester.net] Sent: Thursday, October 08, 1998 4:08 PM To: britdisc (E-mail) Subject: RE: Spirited A brief statement on Big Funky's comments; > "Spirit is something that seems to be lacking in the higher > positions: spirit changes from being "playing to enjoy the > game" to "not getting arsey when someone calls a foul on you". " > > "Where is your spirit 'top' teams??????" I don't know if Red count as a 'top' team, but as a player in a team that regularly plays again 'top' and 'bottom' teams, I have always found the lower teams to be less spirited. Examples are: - Ignoring calls of, out-of-bounds, travel, etc - Getting upset/angry when called back for the call they just ignored - Getting upset/angry that anyone should call a foul on them at all - not calling fouls I would admit that the games against the 'top' teams have become more physical, with much more bumping, but this may be because there's more of me than there used to be to bump! Scott Red