From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 9 11:57:19 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA16904 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:38:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16742 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:38:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zRZvw-00010K-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:38:04 +0000 Subject: Re: Spirited Date: Fri, 9 Oct 98 11:36:38 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt <paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk> To: "BritDisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <E0zRZvw-00010K-00@post.mail.demon.net> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >On the rare occaion when I think the foul really has made a difference >to the outcome, I do make sure the call is heard, although often this >makes me feel bad spirited, because the less experienced teams take it >all a lot more personally, and think you're accusing them of fouling >deliberately rather than accidentally. It's their spirit problem, not yours. If it's a pick, and it looks like it might affect the play, then you should have no qualms about calling it. If you don't call fouls, how will new teams ever learn to accept them and deal with them in a spirited fashion? Experienced players on new teams have a vital "coaching" role to play here. Teaching spirit is as important as teaching tactics. >Without wishing to cause offence to the person concerned, I know >someone, who's usual game is rugby, who has no qualms about taking the >no-contact rule with a pinch of salt. Whenever I point this out, he >apologises, but never actually seems to learn. In these cases, you can't >keep calling foul, as everyone would get pissed off with you for >stopping the game... Yes, you *can* keep calling foul. Other players that understand the game will get pissed off with the foul-er for causing the stoppage, not the foul-ee for calling it. Perhaps then the foul-er will get the message. God, it sounds like dog training! >It's a vicious circle, and the only way of solving it is by >ensuring that everyone calls fouls when they occur, rather than just >ignoring them. You said it! Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum Magazine, London, England editor@ultimatum.demon.co.uk Visit Ultimatum Online... http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk