From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 8 18:24:36 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA05769 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:19:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.deloitte.co.uk (mail.deloitte.co.uk [194.88.95.3]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05757 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:19:08 +0100 (BST) From: helen.myers@deloitte.co.uk Message-Id: <TFSONKPP@deloitte.co.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:16:21 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: mail from space cadet! - womens ultimate MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /310000000/310102502/310102532/300490599/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA05762 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Additional tournaments with compulsory mixed squads will help womens ultimate no more than it will help mens ultimate. The womens game is different to the mens game and both are different to the mixed game although being based on the same principles. Both Twin Peaks and Bliss competed well in the tour last season due to the way in which the competition was organised - enabling teams of similar standards to play each other. It doesn't matter whether they were male, female or mixed teams, we had a lot of close games and both of the women's teams finished at around 20th place in the tour. Womens ultimate in the UK will only improve if womens teams continue to develop and we continue to put in efforts to hold tournaments for all female teams. That is not to say we cannot continue to compete in the open tournaments - we're doing ok and just need more teams to follow suit - come on Women in Black, Organics, Mud Culture/Sneeekys/Sconz, 0181, any others . . . Love 'n' layouts Helen ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Ah, shaddap you bleaters! Author: space.cadet@inorbit.com at DTT.UK.INTERNET Date: 08/10/98 17:21 Optimal league size = 16 teams. Shut it! If sufficient teams enter the tour, a secondary league will be in order. This is not likely to be the case until the millenium at least. Meanwhile, women's participation is growing, without being catered for in open tournaments( it isn't growing fast enough to sustain competitive teams in open tournaments, nor quite yet to extend to satifactory women-only events ). They need more opportunities to play mixed/female opposition. Additional tournaments with compulsory mixed squads ( say 4-5 women per team )would remedy this and address the issue of lack of events in the season for less go-for-the-throat, more keep -up-the-spirit type teams. As someone already pointed out, there are going to be more new student teams than ever this year - many consisting almost entirely of freshers, new to the sport( and to life, young pups ) - who want to enjoy the "Ultimate Experience" ( are y ou experienced? ), not have their noses rubbed in it by this year's fleetingly supreme ( and invariably unfriendly & stuck-up - no names ) champions. C'mon BritDiskers, the weather alone makes the love of Ultimate a forbidding excercise, let's not bog it down with even more of our own personal baggage. The opinions expressed in this transmission were bought off-the-shelf near where you live. --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com