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From: Ralf <ralf@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Spirited
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> I have always found the lower teams to be less spirited.  Examples are:
> - Ignoring calls of, out-of-bounds, travel, etc
> - Getting upset/angry when called back for the call they just ignored
> - Getting upset/angry that anyone should call a foul on them at all
> - not calling fouls

I'm not sure about this. I've been playing for over four years, and I
still have problems here. For instance, fairly frequently when I am
picked against, and I call it, most people carry on. And to be fair,
whilst it is not in the spirit of the rules, it is an awful lot easier
to back down and carry on, rather than making sure the game stops and
the disc goes back, particularly when you know that it probably wouldn't
have made much difference.

On the rare occaion when I think the foul really has made a difference
to the outcome, I do make sure the call is heard, although often this
makes me feel bad spirited, because the less experienced teams take it
all a lot more personally, and think you're accusing them of fouling
deliberately rather than accidentally. 

To be honest, I think this stems from the teaching phase of newer teams.
All of the cases described above have occurred whilst playing less
experienced teams. In most cases, this is usually simply because the
players have never had the rules and fouls explained to them. More
often, at least in my experience, teams tend to ignore most fouls when
practising. This seems to have the effect that a lot of the newer
players don't realise that it's not how things should be done.

Without wishing to cause offence to the person concerned, I know
someone, who's usual game is rugby, who has no qualms about taking the
no-contact rule with a pinch of salt. Whenever I point this out, he
apologises, but never actually seems to learn. In these cases, you can't
keep calling foul, as everyone would get pissed off with you for
stopping the game, and they carry on thinking that their playing style
is fine. Particularly in a student environment, this is bad, as the
newer players see these examples in practises, and think this is the
norm. It's a vicious circle, and the only way of solving it is by
ensuring that everyone calls fouls when they occur, rather than just
ignoring them.

Ralf.
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