From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 24 13:12:26 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA00671 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:55:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00665 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:55:34 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199807241155.MAA00665@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <PLTRXWJS>; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:55:47 +0100 From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Players rights Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:54:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Del makes a lot of very valid comments in his mail, and as a telephone team player myself, I would object to being FORCED to play for my local team (ignoring all the implications of how you decide which my local team is - BAF are closer; but it takes me less time to drive to a headrush practice down the Mway) You take a look at the set-up used in Sweden and Finland, where players are registered to a team and are not allowed to play competitively for 60 days when changing teams. This has resulted in an atmosphere where the fun element in tournaments has been removed; you can't just form a one off team for fun or tart because your team can't make that tournament because of the implications of the 60 day rule. This has resulted in a lot of the players complaining about a lack of tournaments, and lets face we are all in this for the enjoyment. Yes a lot of the top players want to win, and that is part of the enjoyment, but most of the players for these teams could easily be successful at football, rugby, bball, etc., etc. if they didn't enjoy the ultimate. >From this point of view, I feel that the tour rostering system is effective; maybe not perfect, but it's getting there. It prevents players bouncing around unreasonably during the major events, but allows players to enjoy themselves at the non-tour events. Fine, but this should still not prevent players for playing for their chosen team - who ever they are, and wherever they are in the country. Some people do not have the time, inclination, ability, or simply personality to train up a new team just because their nearest team is over an hours drive away. People want to play the game with their friends, or similarly motivated people, and will form a team to allow them to do so. Lets be realistic, the geo team will eventually beat the telephone teams, or more realistically - the practising teams will overtake those teams who just get together for tournaments - the reasons be too obvious to list here. But people will still play in teams that they enjoy, and that may not be your local team, and since the sport is never going to be professional in our lifetimes, the reason for playing must be linked to enjoyment - remove that and you kill the game. Encourage club teams to thrive - but any rules, or regulation that limits a players choice for who they can play for (in terms of location), or that penalises a non-geo team in competition is just going to cause resentment, and whilst handicapping a tournament for a one off might be a bit off a giggle, no-one wants to see it introduced for the major competitions.