From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 4 11:38:01 1996 Received: from clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id LAA10721; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:37:56 GMT Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id LAA05257; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:37:52 GMT Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id UAA01389; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:24:53 GMT Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id UAA01347; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:23:24 GMT Received: by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id OAA01270; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:38:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:26:52 -0500 From: Ian Peter Stebbing <106040.3441@compuserve.com> Subject: Aftermath etc. reply to Paul Meaney To: Britdisc <BRITDISC@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199610311429_MC1-B86-C0A7@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Status: RO Sorry to make this public rather than private Paul but you do appear to have missed the point slightly yourself. 1) I agree that spirit is very important and I wished people realised that the top teams take it just as seriously as everyone else. The job was delegated to Simon who did go and ask a number of people. The ask every team for one vote is not after all the only viable method of selection for SOTG but what happened was not ideal either. Your suggesttion of phoning people up etc. for best practise at tournaments is useful and perhaps some of those you mentioned could be instrumental in at least producing a checklist of items necessary for a tournament. 2) To play 3 or even 4 games to 21, 2 1/2 hour time slots for 3 days in a row is not unusual in well organised established US tournaments! Team rosters are expected to be of sufficient size to cope with this. If you don't believe me ask some of the Druids who went to Fools tournament last April. It was quite a shock and we were dead at the end of the last day but we were the only team there not prepared for it. I played again this year at that tournament for an American team who 'whinged' when they had to sit out 1 time slot on day 2 and therefore had to wait about 3 hours to play their third and final game of the day. That is far from the only tournament with that structure, it is just we are completely unused to it over here but if we are going to progress to competitive proper length games at tournaments then it is the shape of things to come. In its own way such a move will have more effect on the structure of teams and Ultimate in this country because it will force us into having larger squads which are far more difficult to maintain on a non-geo basis. Ian Stebbing Fluid Druids