From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 16 23:38:19 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id XAA20950 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:26:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20937 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:26:09 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199807162226.XAA20937@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: (qmail 27394 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1998 22:26:08 -0000 Received: from userm253.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.78.49) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 1998 22:26:08 -0000 Reply-To: <Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com> From: "Matthew Lowe" <Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com> To: "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Current Discussion Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 22:39:32 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > From: Iain Roberts > > He also mentioned how Red Shift set up as a 'geo' open team, as a result > of the current Skunks not practicing as much with Shift, the team looks > to be disbanded. This is a shame but it does bring a whole load of very > good players into the field for other teams to pick up. Some have ties > to other teams through guest appearences etc. Others do not, these > include the people that have played their last year with Skunks and have > now graduated. Players like Squaddie, Andy Vaughn, Neil Gunn etc. Also > there will be another group of very good players graduating next year, > potentialy with no obvious place to go. Players like Will Parker, > Sanjay Lutchemiah and Myself. This is the case for alot of university > teams, where there is is no obvious team to join, It would be so much better if players like these, that had the ability/time/energy to do coaching/run a team, did so instead of signing up for a team 150 miles away. Players like these could join up with other graduates in the local area (say 50 miles (i'm sure every graduate could find someone within that range)) and started their own teams with friends/workmates etc. I know it might not be everyones cup of tea/coffee/and to a lesser extent sunny delight but it would help improve the number of ultimate players in the country and I'm sure some of these great players could produce geo teams of the same ability as RED and First Touch. > then there needs to be > an effort from the open teams to "spot" (probably the wrong choice of > word given the discussion) players that have potential from all the > university sides. Surely open teams should be trying to find people locally to join their ranks. Though I suppose you could be right if open teams are pinching graduates that live in their local area. I don't dislike teams that cream off the best talent, but I feel that geo teams are more likely to stand the test of time, and are more attractive to new comers, so I feel there should be more incouragement of them. In my own mind I can't think of anything more satisfiying than raising a team from nothing to be a great team. As for the developement of the sport, I understand the problem that Si Hill was on about. The problem is the sport is 3 tiered, those who are really competative, those that want to be at the top but also play for fun, and those that play just for socialising and fun. We need to consider all parties when trying to advance the sport for all of them. You could split the tour into divisions, like you have at big events like the worlds eg. Masters, Open, Co-ed, Juniors, Womens etc. but maybe on a division scale eg. 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions, with the possibility of getting relagated or promoted. I don't have the greatest understanding of the current system but I know it is a great one and probably involves the kind of ranking system I just mentioned already, but I think it would not hert if it was made more obvious/definate eg. 3 groups of 9. I'd like to hear others opinions on this, but just don't mail me saying the tour is great as it is, because I know it is, I'm not attacking the tour just thinking of ways to develope the sport so everyone gets their way. That enough of my babbling for now i'll leave you all in peace (for the moment), Matt Lowe. Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com