From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 15 19:07:05 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA14324 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:55:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA14273 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:55:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from (phidelta.demon.co.uk) [158.152.248.177] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ywVlm-0001VK-00; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:55:10 +0000 Message-ID: <tVTypCA9yOr1EwQh@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:54:05 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Nationals In-Reply-To: <3630.9807141520@eng.warwick.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 <pjZRgFWDsQK5ViyP$l4rxVrb6a> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Andrew Tucker <andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk> writes >These comments may seem a little biased given UTI's current >position, but I would like to question the future of the Outdoor >Nationals within the format it currently operates. In short what is >the point in continuing to have a one off Nationals tournament now >that we have an established and working tour/league? Hmmm, UTI have never made it National Finals yet, have they :) >It must be remembered that Nationals aren't just used to determine >the UK National Champions, but also which teams can qualify for >world club tournaments. How can a single tournament such as >Nationals, even with careful seeding, be considered to give a more >accurate and fairer ranking of teams than a series of 5 tournaments >spread over a year? Those that know the rules (BTW, he - the RuleMaster - is in France at the moment) better than you or I would explain carefully that it's the current official format to have Nationals to decide who qualifies for Worlds... To change it would, *I* believe (please, someone who knows, correct me if I'm wrong!), require progressive discussion by various sub-groups within the BUF hierachy, and then a vote by the membership at a quorate AGM... Anyone ever been to an AGM that was quorate? (It's not that bad, is it? I'll confess to having not attended one since that Oxford Nationals when Lurkers were seriously undermanned...) <snip> >For instance there is far more importance attached to winning the >Premier League both in terms of entry to European competition and >prestige, than in winning the FA or League Cups. I guess that's what's unique about this sport - IT'S NOT FOOTBALL! >PS. Of course I wouldn't suggest anything should be changed this >year, although thinking about it... ... it would be nice to have a decent attendence at the AGM, and get stuff done, wouldn't it? ...it'd be a shame to prevent Catch frm improving on last year's result? Wayne Fluid Druids the team that prevented UTI from making it to Outdoor National Finals, the team that then LOST Outdoor National Finals, for the Xth time the team that wants another go (and believes miracles DO happen!) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk