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On 15 Jul 98, at 14:38, Ben Ravilious wrote:

> I agree. As long as essentially tart-based teams like your own go on
> skimming the cream (or is it scum ;-) from other places this will not
> happen. 

Ben, I hate to say it so bluntly, but I'm afraid once again you are 
talking crap. Without going into too much detail, UTI formed three 
years ago, most of its team having played and graduated at 
Warwick together. As players at the time, we were not widely 
known, but due to ambition, hard work and perseverance we have 
improved to form what is still the core of a tour winning team. Of 
course a few extra players have joined along the way and a few 
have left, but it certainly wasn't a case of skimming the cream. To 
be honest I don't want anyones cream, especially if it's from Gun or
Druids!

I know the histories of Catch and Chevy are pretty similar, with the 
core
of their teams being based on old Leeds and Manchester Uni 
teams.

> I hope UTI is the last such team to form in this country. 

On the contrary I hope more players will go on to form their own 
new teams, using UTI, Catch and Chevron as examples of what 
can be achieved.

> Whilst
> the levelling of the playing field has been welcome in terms of putting
> life into the championships your team's existance does nothing for the
> development of the sport.

Well I'm sorry you feel like that. It would seem to me that the depth 
and
standard of UK ultimate has incresed dramatically over the last few 
years,
in part I would hope to teams such as ourselves. Perhaps it would 
be
better if we go back a few years to when any good Uni player was
immediately snatched up by either Gun or Druids, rather than going 
on to
form a new team of their own.


> I say strengthen the "geo" team spec. initially. however, some day soon
> the ability to practice together will win through.

This is the only bit of sense you've written, practice and hard work  
are
obviously crucial to any successful team.

> Hmm. the good graduates invariably end up playing for tart teams it
> seems.

You seem very bitter, is this caused by no-one wanting to play with 
Red I wonder?

> Ben
> 
> Up the revolution!
> (don't flame us - we'll flame you!)

Five tour events and I'm still waiting....

Keep smiling,
Andy - Under-the-Influence