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Scott replied:
> > 2. The quality of ultimate [in the U.S.] dictates that top teams train regularly.
> Surely this applies in the UK! Ask yourself why Shotgun have been
> ontop for so long - I maintain that until there are more geo teams
> Shotgun will not get the competition they deserve!
I agree that that's why Shotgun are where they are i.e. the quality of
British ultimate dictates that the top team trains regularly. Yes, they
deserve better opposition (and to lose occasionally), and that
opposition won't be of the non-geo non-training type we see now.
I'll concede that my point 2 applies here, but only to a very weak
extent. We're finally realising that we have to start training to
overhaul Shotgun, but as things are non-geo teams can run them close. In
America you'd have to train to avoid being embarassed at regional level.
I think it's just a question of semantics. If you take 'top teams' to
mean top one or two, then yes, it applies here. I intended it to mean
Nationals level i.e. top 10/15, in which case it certainly doesn't.
Alex
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Alex wrote;
> All the top teams in America are geo for two reasons:
> 1. It's a big country, you can't travel halfway across it to attend
> training.
Agreed!
> 2. The quality of ultimate dictates that top teams train regularly.
> (I'm fairly sure there's no legislation with regards where players
> actually live. Even if there were it would be redundant given point 1).
Surely this applies in the UK! Ask yourself why Shotgun have been
ontop for so long - I maintain that until there are more geo teams
Shotgun will not get the competition they deserve! How many times this
summer have we seen Shotgun grind out victories in close games - the
kind of skill that is acknowledged as the result of regular practices.
I agree that coaching is the way forward - the BFDF/BUF are working on
coaching programmes, but that is beside the point at present as what is
needed is the highly skilled players/coaches to get involved in their
local ultimate scene (even if you don't initially play with them at
tournaments) and pass on some of their knowledge. Players that do this
stand to reap the rewards in years to come when they can step out 3
times a week and go to a high quality practice right on their
doorstep..... and maybe even play for that team!?
It's a credit to some of the top teams (Shotgun, Druids) that they are
in their own way doing this already.
Scott
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