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From: Rob Cole <me3101@Bristol.ac.uk>
Reply-To: Rob Cole <me3101@Bristol.ac.uk>
To: Britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Tournament fees
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> > Most teams yesterday (Sunday) had to play three consecutive games. Now,=
I
> > know that long games are better than short, but expecting players to pl=
ay
> > over 4 hours of games without a real break is not only gruelling, but
> > potentially dangerous. This was made worse by the fact that the
> 'breakfast'
> > provided at the campsite wasn't served until 30 minutes before games
> begun
> > - not enough time to get anything eaten and digested. Also, the breakfa=
st
> > was a rip off. Ten pounds per team for the cheapest bread and jam that
> can
> > be bought does not get appreciated.
> >=20
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> Way to go Andy. I injured me knee on Saturday and couldn't play on Sunday=
,=20
> unfortunately, but by the end of the 3 matches, each lasting up to 2 hour=
s=20
> including a time cap, on the trott, they were all knackered. Our final
> play-off=20
> was for 11/12th place against Red, and after 5 minutes most of the team=
=20
> couldn't be bothered. No offense to Red who played well and hard and
> deservedly=20
> won, but after over 11 hours of Ultimate on 2 days, the team were
> knackered.=20
> This probably wasn't helped by us all being students and so unfit after o=
ur
>=20
> long holidays doing nothing but lazing around (I wish), but that is anote=
hr
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> matter already gone over. Also the tournament fee was =A385. For What? No
> party=20
> on Saturday night (well, I suppose we might go down the Green Man the? Ok=
?
> ok.)=20
> Yes I know that this is the Nationals and all very serious, but why could=
nt
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> there be a place where all the teams could meet, have a few quiet beers,
> and=20
> talk over the days play. Most of the teams there we don't play regularly,
> so it=20
> would have been nice to talk to some of them, but everyone went their own
> way=20
> on Saturday night. Also why should we pay =A385 for no Saturday Breakfast=
?
> Take=20
> out =A310 for the BUF tax, and that leaves =A375 per team, from 16 teams.=
A
> quick=20
> bit of arithmetic reveals that this is =A31200. Where did it all go? You
> can't=20
> tell me that pitch hire and prizes cost that much? I know that =A385 is n=
ot
> alot=20
> to some people, but for a bunch of students, 2 tournaments in 2 week-ends
> is=20
> not only a lot of time, but a lot of money as well. I don't mind if we ar=
e=20
> paying that much money for some worthy cause to promote all British
> Ultimate,=20
> but if that is the case, what is it?
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> > Secondly, the end of tournament cermony was a real anti-climax. Why Chr=
is
> > could not organise a proper spirit vote is beyond me (for those who
> weren't
> > there, none of the organisers thought to collect spirit votes, and the
> > trophy was given to Stan by default, it seems). I'm not trying to deny
> Stan
> > the spirit trophy; my point is that this is one of the most important
> > aspects of the game, especially for the teams who don't get into the to=
p
> 5
> > or 6; it angered me that this aspect of the tournament was ignored. Thi=
s
> > *was* the National Finals after all, so every aspect of our sport should
> be
> > afforded the utmost respect - including the women's tournament, which
> Chris
> > also didn't seem to care about, either.
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> Again that man Mr C hits that nail. The best bit about Ultimate as a game
> is=20
> the spirit. This set's it aside from almost every other sport, and we nee=
d
> to=20
> pick this aspect out as much as possible. I'm sure that everyone read the=
=20
> article in Ultimatum about American Spirit, and I for one do not want tha=
t
> to=20
> happen here. We should work as hard as possible to look after the Spirit,
> not=20
> just ignore it when we think that it might not matter, and especialy not =
in
> the=20
> National Finals.
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> > Looking forward to indoors,
> > Andy C
> > Chevron
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> Oh yeah, I love to run around a pitch marked out by 4 walls made of
> re-inforced=20
> concrete... Long may outdoors rule our lives...
> Hope you are all recovering nicely, I know I'm not,
> =20
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Rob Cole, #7 "The Governor"
Mythago Captain, 1996-7
me3101@bris.ac.uk