From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 31 16:40:12 1996 Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id JAA05054; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:34:19 GMT Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA09196; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:43:43 GMT Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id PAA08818; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:37:13 GMT Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.2/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA10784 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:34:02 GMT Received: from elsevier.co.uk (actually host ukgwmime01.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:36:40 +0000 Received: from ES#u#OXF-Message_Server by elsevier.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:36:30 +0000 Message-Id: <s274d2fe.011@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:36:53 +0000 From: Toby Green <t.green@elsevier.co.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, acotgreave@rmplc.net Subject: The nationals aftermath -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Status: RO Having organised a few tournaments in my time, and competed at the same time, I have some sympathy with Chris' handling of the presentation and Spirit vote gathering. The end of a tournament rushes up at one hell of a pace when you're an organiser, and it's easy to forget to organise the presentation properly when you're involved with the games. The key is to improve the organisation of nationals better, and for the BUF to set minimum standards in terms of staffing as well as fields etc. Had Chris delegated some more of the organisation he may have known who had come where at the end too! But you need staff if you're going to delegate. On the other matter of playing three games back-to-back, I know too that this can happen even if one tries to avoid it. I have been guilty of this myself, but at least it was not certain when planning the tournament. (I have had occasions where teams have lost unexpectedly and this has meant playing three on the trot.) What I objected to yesterday was the fact that it was planned that teams had to play three-in-a-row. This is really unacceptable and probably quite dangerous. Again the solution is for the tournament to be organised with a set of minimum standards set by the BUF, and if the organiser cannot meet the standards with their bid, they don't get to host it. Overall I feel that Chris did a good job. The fields were great, and marked up properly (which is rarely done), and without goalposts too. His parents managed to provide enough food during the day (I didn't have to suffer breakfast), and he had shelter and water nearby. Toby Green