From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 22 11:52:18 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA02706 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:40:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk (root@epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk [139.184.162.2]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02697 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:40:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (2968 bytes) by epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk via sendmail with P:stdio/R:acukbind/T:smtp (sender: <kevinbr>) (ident <kevinbr> using unix) id <m0yo41E-000QkSC@epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk> for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:40:12 +0100 ( BST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #10 built 1998-Feb-1) Message-Id: <m0yo41E-000QkSC@epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk> From: kevinbr@biols.susx.ac.uk (Kevin Brooks) Subject: Re: Junior Outdoors To: rupes@bigfoot.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:40:12 +0100 ( BST) Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980621200540.006e5fc0@pop3.demon.co.uk> from "rupes@bigfoot.com" at Jun 21, 98 08:05:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi developers, My debut on this list.... > I also think that junior teams should be allowed to > play in the Student finals , these have regional qualifiers which would > make it easier for them to travel to . Yes indeed, student championships do have qualifying stages in each region in that *indoor* disc sport (some would call it indoor ultimate). It may be that soon we will need regional qualifiers for the student *real* ultimate chapionships, since the number of student teams is growing at an encouraging rate. As far as I know, Junior teams were allowed to participate in the regional indoor student qualifiers, (at least in my region (SE) and also in the SW - you'll have to ask others in other regions about their tourneys). In the SE we invited teams (who only had to gather 5 players - if they could ever muster a team it must be then), but none came. There are also local student leagues starting up all over the country. These might be worth looking into. Most games, as far as I know are played on Weds. afternoon, but I'm sure there would be a little flexibility for junior teams so that we could play after school. Again, in our region, we've invited junior teams, but none have even replied, let alone expressed any interest. [Aside] We've also tried to contact the local junior team (Southern lights) on many occasions, but had no luck. A real problem (at least in my neck of the woods) seems to be lack of enthusiasm and commitment, which is not easily remedied. Back to the idea of juniors in student competition... However, since there seems to be a move towards trying to get ultimate taken more seriously, and aligning with BUSA as far as eligibility rules, etc. go, then this opportunity may not be there much longer. > I know many would object to this ... I'm not sure they do. Even if they did, the tourney could be structured so that no junior team could deny a student team a qualification place, or even so that they never interfered with the qualification procedure. This is what has been done in the past with other ineligible teams who have entered these tourneys. > so > if a regular junior finals event could be established , similar to the > Student and Open finals but perhaps being just one tournament , then this > would also give juniors something to work towards rather than just hanging > around waiting for a junior tournament to be announced . Well, good luck with this, whoever decides to take it on. Enough! Gotta work.(And lick my wounds from the weekend!) Locks Mohawks/Shotgun.