From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 21 16:12:59 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id PAA12156 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:53:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12146 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:53:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from (hottub.demon.co.uk) [158.152.195.248] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycWiK-00047y-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:53:02 +0100 From: <bob@hottub.demon.co.uk> To: "BritDisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:52:16 +0000 Subject: Re: Time Out article X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.30) Message-Id: <E0ycWiK-00047y-00@post.mail.demon.net> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul Hurt <paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Here's another media person who obviously thinks Frisbees are stupid per > se. So I'm not sure that a response from an organisation whose job it is > to promote all games played with "flying discs" will carry any weight > with him. It will probably simply confirm his suspicions that we're all a > bit sad ("My god, they even have a British Frisbee Federation..."). I think Paul has a point here. The problem is that any response from any disc enthusiasts is going to come across as very "train spotter", basically because anyone who's enthusiastic about *anything* always comes across as "sad train spotter". Disclaimer: I am using the phrase "train spotter" because it is a common phrase to describe a particular cultural stereotype, not because I particularly wish to malign train spotters. I've come across this sort of negative inaccurate stereotyping with other activities I've been involved in e.g. morris dancing (hands up everyone whose immediate thought was "a bunch of pansies waving hankies in the air", "which one's morris" or some other media inspired stereotype). One danger is that any letters / emails of complaint will simply form the basis for next weeks article. As Paul also said: > Not a particularly nice thing to do, but insulting people is what > these opinionated writers get paid for it seems. Having said all this, I think at least some effort should be made to inform him of the facts. I want to send him a ranting email as much as anyone but I think a polite, factual letter from BFDF or BUF might achieve more. What about inviting him to a practice session somewhere? Ah well, my first post to Britdisc and I manage to insult train spotters and completely destroy whatever street cred I might have had :-) Bob ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Bob Archer bob@hottub.demon.co.uk