From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 21 15:13:21 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA28235 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:53:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28221 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 21 May 1998 14:53:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from ([158.152.203.174]) [158.152.203.174] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ycVn3-0001gJ-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:49 +0000 Subject: Re: Time Out article Date: Thu, 21 May 98 14:53:56 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt <paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk> To: "BritDisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <E0ycVn3-0001gJ-00@post.mail.demon.net> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all I should probably try and clear something up here: Paphides is mainly having a pop at the kind of people (couples particularly) who wander down the park and aimlessly throw a disc to each other very badly. It's these people he's particularly referring to as "idiots". Not a particularly nice thing to do, but insulting people is what these opinionated writers get paid for it seems. But because of the sarcastic, dismissive opening paragraphs about Ultimate (which he patently doesn't know the first thing about anyway), Ultimate players and golfers end up getting tarred with the same brush, by association. So it's not Ultimate players directly that he's criticising (it's golfers! :-) no, no, no. Well, actually, yes, from the tone of his piece he seems to think that Disc Golf is particularly pointless. It's just that he calls it Ultimate). Here's another media person who obviously thinks Frisbees are stupid per se. So I'm not sure that a response from an organisation whose job it is to promote all games played with "flying discs" will carry any weight with him. It will probably simply confirm his suspicions that we're all a bit sad ("My god, they even have a British Frisbee Federation..."). However, a letter from the governing body of a team sport (which happens to use a flying disc) might be perceived differently. Particularly when he so badly maligned Ultimate by name - the BUF has every right to correct him. My two cents... Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum Magazine, London, England editor@ultimatum.demon.co.uk Visit Ultimatum Online... http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk