From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 21 11:48:32 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA18516 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:41:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk (mercury.king.ac.uk [141.241.4.24]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18502 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:41:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from bob.king.ac.uk by mercury.king.ac.uk with SMTP (MMTA 2) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:41:41 +0100 Received: from BOB/SpoolDir by bob.king.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 21 Apr 98 11:43:52 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BOB (Mercury 1.40); 21 Apr 98 11:43:40 +0100 From: Sick Boy <k967338@kingston.ac.uk> Organization: Kingston University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:43:30 +0100 Subject: Spirit generally X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <1317F19224C@bob.king.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before I begin, I'll admit to being a little sour at discovering we won the spirit vote in only our second ever outdoor tournament and didn't end up getting it. I have brought together a collection of totally new players to the sport who would have gone ape about winning Spirit. But what follows is not driven by that (well, not much anyway). What the hell is going on with spirit? Wayne quite rightly said "Nobody else seemed to notice" who the Spirit vote went to, yet somebody did notice a cock-up in the final positions. I applauded, and still do, the advent of the Tour. It makes Ultimate feel more like a proper sport and forces teams to be more organised (take things more seriously), but has anyone else noticed a slight malady in spirit as a result? Ultim8 as I see it is about the best 8 teams in the country, and everyone else trying to be one of those 8. It makes sense that at the highest level of the game the way spirit manifests itself is going to be different (not an attack on spirit of top teams - so don't have a go), but what about below that? I came across some pretty raw attempts at spirit this weekend. Back to the spirit award this weekend. I guess it might be fair to say that we should have been there, but we stayed until the end of the final, and then got the hell out of the rain. We had no idea (we thought our spirit was pretty poor this weekend), and so we left. I'm as guilty as the next man for not noticing or caring who got spirit, but it is still important to Ultimate in this country isn't it? I remember telling people that I was recruiting for the new team that winning was very important, but that the Spirit of the Game was essential to the sport. I think some people got involved for that very reason. Let's not lose sight of that. Cheers Colin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Colin "Sick Boy" Smith "K-Niggets" Ultimate Club Kingston University K967338@kingston.ac.uk Pager: 04325 376966