From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 20 16:35:52 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id QAA23958 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:16:12 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk (gatekeeper.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk [193.60.159.61]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23941 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:16:08 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA06075; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:13:39 GMT Received: from pers.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk (pers.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk [159.170.196.35]) by mar003.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23530; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:44:14 GMT Received: from MRI_PERS/SpoolDir by pers.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk (Mercury 1.21); 20 Mar 98 12:39:19 BST Received: from SpoolDir by MRI_PERS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Mar 98 12:38:00 BST From: "Harry Golby" <hgolby@pers.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk> Organization: Central Manchester Healthcare Trust To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, amtsjh@amsta.leeds.ac.uk (S J Hill) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:37:58 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: U8 - rules relating to women and junior players In-Reply-To: <199803201046.KAA27812@newton.leeds.amsta> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <34592A53E9A@pers.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Simon, Many moons ago I was at a BUF meeting where a similar exception to eligibility rules was discussed (and thrown out.) The principle arguements for making an exception for women and junior players seem to be: 1. They could be 'weaker' players and wouldn't make that much difference to a team's overall performance 2. This would encourage the development of Womens' and Juniors' Ultimate by giving them the flexibility to enter tournaments as Womens' and Juniors' teams whenever possible but not exclude individuals from playing when they can't get a team together. My feelings are: 1. Is obviously rubbish, there are plenty of women and juniors good enough to make a significant contribution to whatever team they were playing for 2. Wasn't the tour all about trying to get more stable teams who are prepared to commit to playing regularly? Some open teams didn't enter the tour because they couldn't make that commitment, so their players have been forced to play for another team that may not be their 'first choice'. Shouldn't Women and Junior be making the same choices? Should we be trying to use the tour to develop Womens' and Juniors' Ultimate or do that elsewhere and stick to the original aims of the tour. Unless there's something I'm missing, my view is there should be no exception for Women and Junior players (come to think of it I hadn't realised there was an exception for students either!) Harry Harry Golby Email:HGOLBY@PERS.CMHT.NWEST.NHS.UK Phone: 0161 276 4904 (W) Fax: 0161 276 4980