From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 10 15:07:15 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA26008 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:46:29 GMT Received: from epunix.susx.ac.uk (root@epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk [139.184.162.2]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26001 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:46:24 GMT Received: by epunix.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0xfnOp-0002hzC; Wed, 10 Dec 97 14:46 GMT Message-Id: <m0xfnOp-0002hzC@epunix.susx.ac.uk> From: kevinbr@epunix.susx.ac.uk (Kevin Brooks) Subject: Re: Student Eligibility To: graysd@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com (Grayson, David) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:46:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <347C7587@dunfgate.stdavids.ncr.com> from "Grayson, David" at Nov 26, 97 09:48:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey guys, I just thought I'd lend my support to the move to revise the new 4 year rule which has received so much attention on this list in the last couple of weeks. I won't join in the debate, since there doesn't seem to be much of one - everyone seems to broadly agree. However, someone did ask for written details of the eligibility rules for BUSA competition, and since I have them in front of me, I thought I'd chip in on that point. The idea, as I understood it, was that moves ought to be made to come as close to the regulations of other BUSA organised sports as possible, to hasten our inclusion in the national student sports body. I have been reliably informed by our Union Vice-President (Sports) that Sports Council recognition is a condition of entry to BUSA, so we obviously have a long way to go. Simply adhering to the guidelines for other sports will acheive nothing for us until we have Sports Council recognition. However, the relevant information on eligibility can be found in the BUSA Handbook 1997-1998 (copies available from BUSA, 8 Union St, London SE1 1SZ, 0171 357 8555). Firstly, there is no limit on the experience of players. As far as players from 'other institutions' goes, here is a relevant excerpt... 7.1 For a student to be eligible for BUSA Individual championships or to represent his/her university in BUSA Team Championships and in Representative games, he/she shall be: 7.1.1 A player who is permitted to play by the governing body of the sport concerned to participate alongside amateur competition in that sport. 7.1.2 An 'internal' student registered at a University or Institution in membership of the BUSA, and following a course of study recognised by that University. blah, blah... If we were to adopt these rules now, we would have to exclude all of those students who do not have Ultimate clubs at their Uni, but play for, and practice with nearby university teams. I think this would be a mistake, and one which it is unecessary to make since our acceptance to BUSA depends first on getting Sports Council recognition, and then adopting the rules. I think that Sports Council recognition should be a priority, and once that is (inevitably) acheived, we can go back to the rules, and decide whether it would be in the interests of ultimate to join BUSA. By then, it is possible that most Unis in the country might have teams, so fast is the current growth, and the BUSA rules could be adopted without concern. Locks, Mohawks.