From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 2 17:42:57 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA11091 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:25:36 GMT Received: from amsta.leeds.ac.uk (amsta.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.36.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12486 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:47:35 GMT Received: from newton.leeds.amsta (newton.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.36.64]) by amsta.leeds.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13833 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:48:09 GMT Received: by newton.leeds.amsta (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA25584; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:49:04 GMT Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:49:04 GMT From: amtsjh@amsta.leeds.ac.uk (S J Hill) Message-Id: <199712021249.MAA25584@newton.leeds.amsta> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: we need opinions... (students elig.) Content-Type: X-sun-attachment Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 51 > Excuse me but do you think you guys could take your discussion elsewhere? > > By now you should know who each other are so why don't you just email each > other instead of bombarding Britdisc. > > It's a worthy discussion, it's just that not everyone needs to know about it. > > Mark If you've seen all this before with maillists please just delete this... Also - I guess that about 3 or 4 people will reply to Mark's message - and from there it can really snowball. I'm only replying becuase I wanted to make an "official comment" as Director of Competitions. Mark (and anyone else feeling a bit like that) As someone who is involved in the sort of decision that is currently being discussed (by nearly as many non-students as students) I find it extremely useful to hear what people think and feel on these things. I don't suppose I am alone in this. All the comments - with the possible exception of one - had very clear subject headings. This makes it very easy to delete the message. Please don't frighten people away from saying what they think. There hasn't been very much pointless jibbering, and nobody has been insulted - a far cry from earlier debates. (Personally I enjoyed the discussion about toilet rolls at Ross-on-Wye; but that sort of thing never happens anymore.) BD is our best means of gauging opinions. (Altho' it remains important to remember that not all ultimate players are represented here.) We don't have the time or money to conduct this sort of thing on the phone. And for people who are frequently involved in running tournaments for example there isn't much time left for discussing things there either. In this case, it would appear that a bad rule has been put in place. Without people saying so (on BD - cos there's nowhere else) we might never really know. Si ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: octet-stream X-Sun-Encoding-Info: Base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATTRIBS.BND" X-Sun-Content-Length: 1843 X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 31 QmV5b25kIFBhY2tlZCBBdHRyaWJ1dGVzACEtABYAKAAAAAAAU3R1ZGVudCBl bGlnaWJpbGl0eSAtIEkndmUgaGFkIGVub3VnaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AG1hcmtfd2lkZWJlcmcAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA8Qk1TTVRQODgxMDkxNjcyMm1h cmt3aWQAQmV5b25kIFByb3ByaWV0YXJ5IERhdGEaAAAAAAQAAAAAAAAADwAt AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ29udmVyc2F0aW9uIElkLDxTSU1FT04u OTcxMjAxMTMxNS5BQGNhYmxlY29ycG9yYXRpb24uY28udWs+BAAAAAAAAAAQ AAkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABNZXNzYWdlIEVuY29kaW5nCElTTy04 ODU5AQAAAAAAAAAVAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABVc2UgUHJvcG9y dGlvbmFsIEZvbnQBAAEJAAAAAAAAAA0ANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AFByZXZpb3VzIEZyb20zUGhpbCBDb29wZXIgPFBoaWxpcC5Db29wZXJAdGVh Y2hpbmcuZWFydGgub3guYWMudWs+DQAAAAAAAAALADcAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAABQcmV2aW91cyBUbzUAlD0BAAkA//8mAAAAAiYAJUJyaXRkaXNj IDxicml0ZGlzY0Bjc3Yud2Fyd2ljay5hYy51az4NAAAAAAAAAAsANwAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAE9yaWdpbmFsIHRvNQCUPQEACQD//yYAAAACJgAl QnJpdGRpc2MgPGJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrPhEAAAAAAAAA DQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT3JpZ2luYWwgdGV4dAAAAAAAABEA AAAAAAAABADLAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVGV4dBABRXhjdXNlIG1l IGJ1dCBkbyB5b3UgdGhpbmsgeW91IGd1eXMgY291bGQgdGFrZSB5b3VyIGRp c2N1c3Npb24gZWxzZXdoZXJlPwoKQnkgbm93IHlvdSBzaG91bGQga25vdyB3 aG8gZWFjaCBvdGhlciBhcmUgc28gd2h5IGRvbid0IHlvdSBqdXN0IGVtYWls IGVhY2ggb3RoZXIgaW5zdGVhZCBvZiBib21iYXJkaW5nIEJyaXRkaXNjLgoK SXQncyBhIHdvcnRoeSBkaXNjdXNzaW9uLCBpdCdzIGp1c3QgdGhhdCBub3Qg ZXZlcnlvbmUgbmVlZHMgdG8ga25vdyBhYm91dCBpdC4KCk1hcmu1AAMAEAGu AAEAAQAAAAcAAQABAAEAEAEAAAAAAAA4/wAAAAAAAJABAAAAAAAAAABNUyBT YW5zIFNlcmlmAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAEASgABAEsASwAB AEwAvAABAL0AvQABAL4ACwEBAAwBDAEBAA0BEQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABkAAGk AQFIAwHsBAGQBgE0CAHYCQF8CwEgDQHEDgFoEAEMEgGwEwFUFQH4FgAAAAAA AAAAAAAAEAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQXR0YWNobWVudCBDb3Vu dAQAAAAAAA==