From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 15 09:07:00 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29901 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:47:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29891 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:47:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk by oxmail4 with SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:47:14 +0100 Received: from [192.76.27.12] (max12.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.12]) by sable.ox.ac.uk (1.2/8.8.3) with SMTP id IAA10710 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:47:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:47:08 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199710150747.IAA10710@sable.ox.ac.uk> X-Sender: gree0226@sable.ox.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: andrew.vickers@Green.oxford.ac.uk (Andrew Vickers) Subject: Tour Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a short note. The tour debate has been said to have been characterised between the elite (shotgun, catch etc) who benefitted and the rest. I play with First Touch who came 9th in the tour. We are not part of the elite, but I overwhelmingly support the tour. It gives a focus to the season, improves skills and avoids meaningless games. I also support the emphasis on geo-teams (see Scott's comments about RED.) The strength of First Touch is that we have been playing on the same bit of park, every week of the year for nearly 4 years. That is how we have been able to keep building despite periods where we have lost many of our players. We are open to both beginners and more experienced players: probably the best demonstration of this is that over half of our team never played in a tournament when they joined us. And finally, with all this griping about student teams, has no-one noticed that i) student teams came 11 and 12th at nationals; ii) many teams had student players (eg. OW! players with Oxford)? Andrew First Touch