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Subject: Re: Student teams and the U8 tour
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"Andy Cotgreave" <acotgreave@rmplc.net>
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Personal opinions on the whole Ultim8 thing, with some regard to Students:
> Author: Andy Cotgreave
> Nancy wrote about the elimination of top teams playing lower teams
> within the tour.... next year we hope to vary the Tour formats slightly
> to accomodate this
OK, so it'd be nice to see a few "whallopings" occuring at Tour events,
maybe along the lines of seeds 2 vs 14 (or somesuch similar matchup).
I do, however feel that MORE consistency is needed in the Tour event
formats - were any 2 on the same format this year?
This is where, I feel, Nancy's point about Saturday morning being the most
important game of the event for some teams arises... she has no problems
playing at 9.30am on Saturday, but if they *HAVE* to come top of a pool
because there are 17 or 23 (or some other similarly awkward number [try
scheduling it!] as at *most* of the events) teams and they make a mistake
and lose, they have no second chance!
There was originally a "Tour Format" proposed, with the first round of
games in pools as at Nationals (and nowhere else, that I know of?). The
second round 5-12 section got modified to give 2nd chances, but the first
round never happened properly! [apologies if this has got a bit rambly,
but it's a pet hate of mine, I'll stop in a minute!]
The format can be used if we have the right number of teams (divisible by
4!) at a tournament - so come on the nonRostered teams!
Giles: You feel that you learn more in a close game, about your team
pulling through together, remembering some particular weaknesses of
your regular opposition, etc. but have you never felt that you've
learnt, when being walloped by Shotgun, when if you can work out what
they're doing, and make them take 15 passes (maybe including a
near-D), rather than 4, to score?
Andy also wrote, repeating Si Hill:
> If you want to see more tournaments that aren't part of the tour, THEN
> ORGANISE THEM.
This year was a bit "busy" for some (who took 3 weeks, or so, to go to
WUCC97, and 2 weekends for EUC97) with the Tour and all. But there
were only 4 (maybe 5? one was Womens' Nationals) OTHER tournaments
organised, two on the same weekend, and not many of the "big" teams
went to them (due to the "busy" reasons)
All credit to the organisers for running these tournaments. Hopefully
they'll do them again next year, now they know how easy it is! and
will get more teams and we'll see the whallopings that some people
learn from, and what the students can really do!
That's it, I'm done!
Wayne
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