From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 22 20:48:57 1996 Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id UAA25002; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:35:37 +0100 (BST) Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id UAA29939; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:27:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from vulcan by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id UAA29924; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:26:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from rose.le.ac.uk by vulcan with SMTP (PP); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:25:12 +0100 Received: from ROSE/SpoolDir by rose.le.ac.uk (Mercury 1.21); 22 Oct 96 20:25:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from SpoolDir by ROSE (Mercury 1.30); 22 Oct 96 20:25:09 +0100 (BST) From: "R.A. Kingsley" <rak4@leicester.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:25:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: the need to qualify? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Message-ID: <2B0DA5F5992@rose.le.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Status: RO Dear BDers, Just thought i'd add my two penneth worth! Quick get that TOURNEY_GUIDELINES on line or there'll be trouble! This is a personal view point but I'm sure I won't be alone. Dora Kemp has already indicated that she (and her team) enjoy playing against Shitgun and this is a view point I wish to echo (although it would be nice if they smiled once or twice while they give other teams a sound thrashing). The only way that 'lesser' teams will improve is by playing against and watching other more experienced teams. In the NM regional Jesters (with many entirely new to the game) played Catch 22 (who presumably are one of these elite teams which should not have to qualify) and scored 2 points aginst them. Two points which brought huge amounts of satisfaction to the whole team. Such games give players a chance to learn more about good O and D. I think it was the first time most of my team mates had seen a zone D. They learnt from it and when the next team tried it on them they broke easily! My last point is that if we go down this road of elitism, especially this early in the evolution of the game in this country, we have to decide where to draw the line between qualification or not. As far as I can see this is not poossible until a league type arrangement is introduced, something which i think has no place in Ultimate at this stage. No actually I've got another point! Maybe experienced teams should use the qualification constructively by 1. encouraging new players on the opposition (something which you should be able to do seeing as there is no question of the outcome of the game - smile at them!) or 2. if you really do want to be self centred try some of you nifty moves out on them and dazzle them with your brilliance! None of what I have said is directed at anyone/team in particular, I just think that the needs and preferences of all teams should be considered rather than just the elite top X teams. In case you had'nt guessed I think the introduction of the qualifiers is the best thing since sliced bread and should continue untill the whole ethos and structure of Ultimate in britain has evolved a bit further. If you have bothered to read this far.......thanks! Rob Kingsley (Jesters)